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Jun 9 2008, 01:30 AM
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Thou Shalt Rock ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 404 Joined: 20-October 06 From: Newcastle, Australia Member No.: 112 |
So, I was doing my usual pondering when suddenly a question hit me! What do blind (from birth) people dream about? Is it just voices? Or does their brain make up colours? And images? What the hell happens!?
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Jun 9 2008, 04:16 PM
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Vanguard ![]() Group: Members Posts: 172 Joined: 30-December 06 Member No.: 646 Final Fantasy XI Data: Server: --- |
That's a good question. Maybe they don't have dreams. It could just be all black...you know...void-ness. (。-`_´-)ゞ ?
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Jun 9 2008, 11:40 PM
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Vanguard ![]() Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: 10-January 07 From: 3 NW Ave., Luca, Spira Member No.: 738 |
I seem to remember having read about this sort of thing. Some people who weren;t blind from birth, but merely from a young age (under 3 years, and in one case under 1 year) can see things in their dreams (though not like a sighted person;s dream, though they lack the reference to describe it. As for people blind from birth, the only thing I remember is that the question was evaded. Either he or someone else, another time, couldn;t describe it, and admitted so.
Somewhat unrelated: Language is so constraining. Even lojban is unable to properly explain things that don;t even have a basis for idea in language (the problem with perfect descriptive languages is that all the people old enough to create or further it have already learned the constraints of their previous language, or even if they were taught a perfect descriptive language from birth, the constraints of the creators of the language. Sort of like trying to pull yourself up by your bootstraps when wearing loafers.) -------------------- Adopted FF character:
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Jun 12 2008, 04:02 AM
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Thou Shalt Rock ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 404 Joined: 20-October 06 From: Newcastle, Australia Member No.: 112 |
QUOTE Somewhat unrelated: Language is so constraining. I agree. That's why we have to invent new words to describe things. -------------------- |
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Jun 12 2008, 06:29 AM
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![]() Grind!! Pantera!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 767 Joined: 14-December 06 From: Macedonia Member No.: 552 Final Fantasy XI Data: Server: --- |
I guess because they only have a vague perception of what things look like, through what they can feel with the senses that still function , their dreams would look pretty unreal to us.
And I dont think it's all blackness, they have an imagination, if we can dream of things that don't exist, so can they, IMO there's no difference there. -------------------- Historia de Pantera y su Sombras ![]() |
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Jun 12 2008, 02:12 PM
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In my oppinion, blind people can dream...
Technically speaking their eyes don't work, or maybe the optic nerve would be damaged, but their brain should actually still be able to create a vision of what they think would be something. say the seaside, if you describe a seaside to a blind person, they would still be able to imagine it, otherwise they wont ask. This way they would dream about it, and see what they think is that image. and from there, the descriptions of the teller would come alive in the blind persons brain, and they would be able to see the going on's and the crashing of the waves. However it's confusing... what would it look like? if we had never seen the sea and had to imagine it? would our minds create a complete failure into what can be seen? |
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Jun 13 2008, 12:23 AM
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![]() Useless Dies! Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 15-November 06 From: In my DMC shop! Member No.: 370 |
And I dont think it's all blackness, they have an imagination People's imaginations depend on what they see in real life.I've read about it, yes blind people dream... however, blind people since birth can only have auditory dreams, but for the rest of blind people they can have dreams just like we do, it depends on how much that person could see before turning blind, a blind woman said her mother was forever 30, in her dreams she imagine her in that age because she wasn't blind back then. This post has been edited by Trunks: Jun 13 2008, 12:24 AM -------------------- Just me alone... Is more than enough. ![]() Click My Youtube Channel, While You're There Check My Friends Channels As Well ;) |
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Jun 13 2008, 02:26 AM
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Thou Shalt Rock ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 404 Joined: 20-October 06 From: Newcastle, Australia Member No.: 112 |
QUOTE say the seaside, if you describe a seaside to a blind person, they would still be able to imagine it, otherwise they wont ask. This way they would dream about it, and see what they think is that image. and from there, the descriptions of the teller would come alive in the blind persons brain, and they would be able to see the going on's and the crashing of the waves. That seems like reasonable assumption. Does anyone know a blind person? We need someone to go and answer this question! -------------------- |
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Jun 13 2008, 05:05 AM
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![]() Grind!! Pantera!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 767 Joined: 14-December 06 From: Macedonia Member No.: 552 Final Fantasy XI Data: Server: --- |
That would be pretty uncomfortable
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Jun 13 2008, 04:05 PM
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Thou Shalt Rock ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 404 Joined: 20-October 06 From: Newcastle, Australia Member No.: 112 |
If I were blind I'd be happy if people were interested - I'd be like 'Hell fucking yeah I dream, last night I had one about a turkey!'
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Oct 17 2008, 09:14 PM
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非凍結天皇 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Senior Members Posts: 829 Joined: 11-October 08 From: Temple of Xian Member No.: 3,210 Final Fantasy XI Data: Server: --- |
Whoa! The latest reply here was like two years ago! Where is everyone???
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Nov 23 2008, 10:42 AM
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Soul Reaper ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 16-April 08 From: The Mysterious Realm Member No.: 2,755 Final Fantasy XI Data: Server: --- |
Your telling me. I knew most of these people when I joined. And now... they're gone!
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